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We launched The Social Entrepreneurship & Innovation Podcast in January 2019. Now, just a little over a year and a half later, weâve hit the 100 episode milestone!
This podcast has become much of the âbaseâ from which we launched Grow Ensemble, our media and marketing company in the space of social impact and sustainable business.
Growth has been steady, with 2020 listenership up 290% over 2019, now spanning 116 countries around the world and counting!
Iâve learned a ton, made good friends (and & clients), and canât imagine stopping the podcast now that weâve started. 100 episodes in, Iâve learned a lot on podcasting, read a lot on podcasting, and now want to share more on our process in hopes to help you.
Approach this post like a guidebookâtake it chapter by chapter. This is a monster! So, it’ll be best to tackle these 7,500+ words and 100 podcasting tips in pieces.Â
Hopefully, this can be a resource to help get you started. And while itâs not exactly a step-by-step guide, itâs (almost) all of the best I can share from my experience thus far.Â
Happy Podcasting! đ¤
Contents:Â
- Tips for Starting & Launching a Podcast
- Tips for Sustaining a Podcast
- Tips for Recording Podcasts
- Tips for Booking & Interviewing Guests
- Tools & Tricks for a Successful Podcast
- Tips for Editing & Publishing a Podcast
- Tips for Promoting & Growing a Podcast
Getting Started & Launching a Podcast
Start a Podcast
Start a podcast? Thatâs your tip? Yes! Thatâs a âtip!â Starting the Social Entrepreneurship & Innovation Podcast has been one of most valuable practices and assets for Grow Ensemble. If you can afford to launch and sustain one of your own (see more on: budget), I think itâs worthwhile!
Here are a few âstep-by-stepâ guides that helped me:
How to Start a Podcast in 2019: 8 Steps from Idea to Launch
How to Start a Podcast: The 1,000,000 Download Formula
Set Goals & Objectives for Your Show
Before you get started, seriously consider what you are attempting to accomplish with your new podcastâbusiness development, brand awareness, or maybe you hope to use it to develop relationships. Identifying your purpose will help manage your own expectations and serve as a check to see if a podcast will in fact be a fulfilling experience for you.
While a podcast can certainly drive financial return for your business, if thatâs your only goal, you may be better suited doing something else. There are more efficient mechanisms to achieve that goal both in terms of time and finances. Podcasting is an involved activity. I am a firm believer that if you arenât enjoying the process itself, and instead are looking only for results, it will be difficult to create a successful show that satisfies the itch that motivated you to start..
Listen to Other Shows!
To progressively make a better show, you need to be a student of podcasting. I know this is an area of growth for our show, but even still, I always appreciate the insight I gain when Iâm paying attention to what I like about the shows that I subscribe to, as well as the shows that consistently rank among the most popular.
Review Othersâ Experiences on Podcasting
Since starting the podcast, Iâve become an âaddictâ for othersâ reflections on their own experiences running and growing a show. Here are a few other posts on podcasting I found helpful from Sumo, and Smart Passive Income.
Take Notes on What Makes a Show Engaging
Do this when you are getting started with your show and as you continue on. Be considerate of your listeners and become a student of what makes podcasts enjoyable to listen to, informative, and addictive.
Listen to shows in your industry, listen closely to shows you subscribe to, and listen to podcasts ranked among the most popular. Take diligent notes on what seems to make them âgood.â
Consider Your Podcast an Experiment
Remember: If you start a podcast, it doesnât mean you have to do it forever. This was advice I took from Tim Ferriss when he started his podcast some years ago, he committed to do a finite number of initial episodes as an âexperimentâ to determine if he liked it or not. More and more I think that is a great approach to getting started.
Start a podcast with the idea that you can stop! If itâs not going to be the content medium for you, there are plenty of others.
Batch Episodes for a Launch
When we launched the podcast, I knew weâd consistently publish one episode per week. However, for the launch specifically, I wanted to create some buzz around the show.
So, when launching, we put out 3 episodes in the first week (with 2 on day 1), 2 in the second, and then finally got to 1 per week. This was a good way to get some momentum of initial downloads and, luckily, guests were generous in sharing their episodes, which was also helpful with that momentum.
Record First Episodes with Friends (to get comfortable)
Please donât record with guests you donât know well for your first couple of episodes. First, test out the equipment solo or with a close friend or partner (thanks, Annie!).Â
Then, when you schedule recordings, find good friends to record your first podcast or two with to get the hang of things. I first recorded two episodes, one with my brother, and another with a long-time friend.
There will be some awkwardness and maybe some technical snafus, so you want to make sure and get those out with people who wonât mind and are with you on your mission to learn. When you start recording with guests you are less familiar with, youâll want to be âgame-readyâ to set a good impression and show that you are mindful and respectful of their time.
Ask Friends & Family for Reviews

Most people think that reviews affect your ranking or âNew & Noteworthyâ position in Apple Podcasts (formerly iTunes) and Spotify. Everyone says this, but Iâve never seen this proven to be completely true.
However, getting reviews definitely helps with establishing the social proof for your show early on. If people are browsing for shows, seeing that others have reviewed it can certainly help tip someone over the edge to testing your show out.
Go Simple & Inexpensive with Gear
If you arenât certain youâll stick with podcasting forever, keep your gear simple and functional. Of course, donât buy anything that is so low quality itâll force you to invest in unnecessary replacements, but you donât need to go top of the line for audio equipment.
Better yet, if you can borrow equipment from friends (which I was lucky enough to), do it!Â
It took me over a year to upgrade microphones, and now I use the Yeti Blue USB Microphone.
Build Your Checklists Early
From the get-go, I was building checklists for our podcast process as I went. When I was executing on much more of the process this was helpful because I didnât miss any important steps, and when I started enlisting other people into active production roles, it made it much easier to hand off.
Take Criticism with a Grain of Salt
More likely than not, youâll receive positive and negative feedback with the launch of your show. Be considerate of who gives that feedback to you. Are they your target audience? Do they listen to podcasts? Do you care what they say? Always remember, itâs harder to be the one making a podcast than criticizing those who are. đ
Donât Rush into Naming Your Show
I ended up changing the title of our show to The Social Entrepreneurship & Innovation Podcast roughly 30-40 episodes in. Honestly, I wish that I named it this from the very beginning. I like the name of our business, Grow Ensemble, quite a bit. However, no one knew that name.
The name change has been useful because itâs closely related to keywords we want to rank for. Plus, if you search âSocial Entrepreneurship Podcastâ in Google, weâll come up in a few different ways on that first page!
Create a Dedicated Landing Page for the Show
We have GrowEnsemble.com/podcast as a dedicated landing page for our podcast on our WordPress site. Here we aggregate our feed of most recent shows, link out to all the different places to listen or watch the show, as well as add in some of our strongest reviews.


This is a great way to easily share the show (not just specific episodes) with others.
This page has seen a reasonable amount of traffic since the launch of our show, and continues to every month.
Sustaining a Podcast
Systems
The #1 reason that podcasts seem to âfadeâ or be inconsistent (in production and results) is that there arenât proper systems setup to ensure the continual booking of guests or development of shows, recording of those shows, and publishing.
When you or your team are having to recreate the wheel for every episode, you are expending a lot of unnecessary time and energy that can often be a drag on momentum and motivation.
Use & Request Info from Guests Through Calendly

When guests or their team select a time slot that seems good for them, we simultaneously request key information that helps our process. That includes a brief bio, a photo, any important URLs we should promote, and a phone number just in case we need to get in touch with them.Â
This is essential so we donât have to run in circles looking for information if someone is late for a recording, or scramble for a good headshot the day before we are publishing for promotional materials or show notes.
Connect Your PM Software
We use Asana for Project Management of our Podcast Editorial Calendar. Whenever a guest books a recording slot, weâve connected Calendly to Asana so that a new task card is automatically created with all the guestâs intake information, and a deadline is set for the scheduled date for recording so I can be notified to prepare beforehand.
Zapier should have a connection from Calendly to almost any Project Management Software.

Have a Consistent Recording Space
This hasnât always been possible for Annie and I depending on our home residence, or if we are traveling. But, if itâs possible, take advantage of having your podcast equipment near setup and at the ready! It makes podcast prep easier.
Set a Publishing Schedule
Having a consistent publishing schedule is both good for you and your team, as well as your audience. People want consistency! I donât know about you with shows you really like, but I get in the habit of checking whether or not a new episode is published on their typical schedule. Similarly, we want to do this for our team, so we can reverse engineer how long each different stage of the production and publication stage should take.
Build a Team
To get to 100 episodes and beyond, you need a good team around you. We have audio editors, show notes writers, content support and designers to publish episodes, our Director of Partnerships to help book guests, social media support, and video editors. In total, we have 5 individual people involved in our podcast process (including myself), with a rotating staff of audio editors.Â
I cannot thank this team enough! Thanks, Rebecca, Kate, Sameer, Jess, Reuben, and Annie!
Automate Guest Follow-Up
Before we onboarded our wonderful Director of Partnerships & Communications to help with guest bookings, I was doing it solo! I would batch outreach to new guests for a once-a-month sprint. Iâd send out maybe 5-10 personalized emails in a single day. However, most people donât respond to a first email (if youâve never contacted them before).Â
Thatâs why you need to follow up!Â
If you are manually tracking that follow-up, that outreach becomes burdensome quickly. Instead, use a tool like Mailshake, that will automate follow-up for you if your prospective guests donât reply after a week or so.Â
Track Your Costs
Keep tabs on what it costs to produce a single episode. This will be a good litmus test for you from time to time as you measure the âworthâ of your show. As well, if there are activities in your process that donât seem to drive any worthwhile result (good guest experience, more downloads, etc.) then ditch it and save yourself the money.Â
Keep your process lean and focused on whatâs enhancing the show overall.
Learn About Your Audience
This is critical for a number of reasons. (1) Many guests or PR teams will start to ask you about your target audience, download numbers, and subject matter areas. Come prepared with a response. (2) The better you know who your audience is, who is listening, etc., the better youâll be able to connect with them via the show content. (3) It can make your show feel more real! Put some humans behind those download numbers, and recording and publishing your show will feel more âreal.âÂ
While I encourage all listeners to connect with me on LinkedIn or Twitter, I also have this autoresponder set up in ConvertKit for whenever we add a new email list subscriber.

Hosting Guests & Recording a Podcast Interview
Be Aspirational in Your Guest Outreach
If thereâs someone with a lot of âname idâ in your industry, still donât be afraid to reach out to them! More often than not, people are very excited and willing to share their story and be featured. As long as your outreach isnât annoying and itâs genuine, it doesnât hurt to ask.
Look to Conference Speakers for Guests
If we are looking for guest ideas, weâll sometimes look at Speakers for upcoming conferences or events in our space. These are great sources of people in our industry doing work weâve yet to come across. Thanks, event organizers!
Donât Say âYesâ to Every Guest Pitch
We get pitched for guests to be on our show constantly! Most of the pitches are less than eye-catching and are easy to ignore. They donât address us personally (or get our name wrong) and show clear signs of a âvolume-based approach.â Some pitches are better and more genuine, but still not a great fit. Be considerate to determine who your ideal guest is for what you want your show to be, and who your audience is. The people you say yes to may not hit the mark 100% of the time, but you get the hang of spotting compatibility as you go.
Create a Guest Guide

Your guests will always have questions about the recording processâwhat kind of questions do you ask, whatâs the show about, who is the target audience, what happens after recording, what equipment should they use, etc., etc. You can save yourself time, and as well, be proactive with communication and creating a solid guest experience by creating a guest guide.Â
When a guest or their team books, the confirmation email has the guide linked within it. So does the calendar invite that comes with it.
Hereâs a link to our podcast guest guide for reference.
Research Your Guests
Before every single interview episode, I consistently spend a few hours (or more) making myself familiar with my guest, their work, and where theyâve been featured previously. The time I apply varies from guest to guest (mostly based on how well-featured they have been and how well I already know them), but this time is incredibly important.
Your familiarity with your guests, their work, and their public thoughts obviously makes for a better conversation, but I also think it helps to build strong rapport as it shows you value them being on your show.
Setup âRecording Remindersâ for Guests
Everyone gets busy (duh). With that in mind, make sure whatever booking tool you are using (us: Calendly), make sure there are reminders 72 hours and 24 hours before a recording. I think that this sometimes prompts guests to cancel/reschedule if theyâve overbooked. Better early, before you are sitting around waiting for them to join the call.
Schedule in âBuffer Timeâ for Your Recordings
Make sure that guests book a time slot that provides enough âbuffer timeâ outside recording the interview itself. Sometimes people are a few minutes late and, regardless, youâll want to spend some time chit-chatting before and after. You also want to account for the times when conversations run longer than planned! Plan for that. đ You donât want you or your guest having to run off earlier than is ideal.
Follow Your Guests on Social Media
This is great for research, as well as keeping in touch with guests after the show. I canât help but become fans of all the folks I chat with, so itâs always great to keep up with their work afterward, and I like to let them know Iâm doing so with likes, shares, and comments. đÂ
If Your Guest Wrote a Book, Read It
My two favorite forms of guest research (1) listening to podcasts theyâve been on and (2) reading their book if theyâve written one. These are really great ways to get a better understanding of who they are and how they think before hopping on for a chat.
Plan to Make Friends with Your Guests

The best part of recording our podcast has been the relationships that Iâve made as a product. With 77 of our 100 episodes being guest interviews (as opposed to solo episodes), I feel like Iâve made 77 friends across the world!
From Uvita, Costa Rica to Boise, ID to Sweden and so many different places in between, I genuinely feel like I have people to take to lunch or grab a drink with whenever our paths cross.
But, I suppose, the friendly and welcoming community is just one of the many wonderful aspects of the purpose-driven business space! Either way, donât overlook the wonderful opportunity a podcast provides for kicking off some really valuable and enriching relationships.
Follow-Up with Guests
Find good reasons to keep in touch with guests. Whether itâs about their episode, a personal update in their life, or something exciting happening with their company, make sure your podcast recording was the first encounter of many!
Let Guests Know When Their Show Is Launching
This is something people really care about, and, rightfully so! As excited as you might be to release your content, the guest (might) be 5-10x as excited to see their episode released and to share it with their network, family, and friends.
Think about any time youâve been featured or interviewed anywhere! Isnât it fun? Think about how your guest might feel, and keep them well in the loop.

Ask for Guest Referrals
When you finish an interview that you really loved, ask the guest for any potential recommendations for future guests. In most cases (of course, not all), people love to be connectors. And, good guests typically refer good guests!
This is a great way to deepen your relationship with existing guests and provide them an opportunity to offer an interesting experience to friends and close colleagues in their network. Plus, youâll (now) have a friend in common with your next guest, which is great for comfortability.
Bring Guests on Twice!
We havenât published a second episode with a guest yet, but we are getting close to doing so. Donât be afraid to bring a guest on a second time for a different style of episode, to talk about something completely different, or to get an update on any projects they were getting started.
A second episode with a guest might be better than the first, especially if youâve had the opportunity to continue nurturing the relationship since the first time you met/recorded.
Recording Podcasts
Be Consistent
More so than other mediums, if you want your podcast to gain traction, you have to be consistent. Seasonal or serialized podcasts work if you already have an established audience, but if youâre hoping to focus on starting or growing, consistency allows listeners to reliably work you into their normal routine.
Batch Recordings

I already mentioned that I recommend batching for your initial podcast rollout, but once you get going, this can be useful as well. I say this because, sometimes it can feel like you are on a âhamster wheelâ endlessly creating and recording shows whether you have you/your team recording every single week, or at random times.
Batching means youâre scheduling blocks of time (maybe even a full part of the day) to record multiple episodes, so youâre ahead. Then you can take some time off to focus elsewhere until the next batch is up.
Donât Batch Recordings
So…uh…thereâs definitely a sweet spot. When I first got on the practice of âbatching recordingsâ I may have overcorrected. At times, I would record 4 guest interviews in a day! I was too wiped out on those days to do anything else, and I found that I wasnât able to bring myself fully to every episode.
Iâve since limited my schedule to have a max of 3 recordings per day with an adequate buffer between each. Weâll schedule 2 consecutive recording days (Tues/Wed or Wed/Thurs) every 3 weeks or so. With each 2-day batch, weâll consistently get 3-6 recordings done, and thatâs been a good balance for us.
Donât Record on Mondays (or Fridays)
I donât know about you, but I really prefer to preserve my Monday and Friday schedules to remain âopen.â On Mondays, I like to give myself time to recalibrate from the weekend and start the week on a good foot.
As well, Iâm always doing prep the day before an episode, and you donât want to put that pressure on yourself on a Sunday. I like to save Fridayâs for writing and researching my Better World Weekly Newsletter, completing a weekly review, and reviewing the company scorecard. I have also anecdotally found that guests are more likely to reschedule on Mondays and Fridays. I think many of us think the same.Â
Check Your Wifi
If itâs within your control, check your wifi speeds with SpeedTest.net (preferably well ahead of recording time so you can do something about it before a show if need be). If your Zoom call is cutting out, that can distract you from connecting with your guest, and ultimately, it will affect listenersâ experience!Â
Donât Store Audio Files Locally!
Use the cloud! For all our podcast recordings, we use a shared drive in Dropbox. Iâm sure there are other suitable places to store your files, but the most important thing is to not store them on your local drive.
One time I spilled tea all over my laptop at a coffee shop and fried my hard drive. It was sad. I had to dish out an unexpected $1500 for a new MacBook that day, but I didnât lose anything important because all my files were stored in Dropbox or other cloud-enabled services.Â
Donât risk losing anything important…store it away in Dropbox.
Donât Delete Any Show Files!
Speaking of…I think itâs worthwhile to keep every show file youâve ever created (again, the case for a cloud storage service like Dropbox). Youâll never know when you may want to loop quotes from guests into future episodes or create a âbest ofâ show like we talk about below.
Eliminate All Distractions
Do the critical âpre-showâ check. Close out Slack, exit all browser tabs, silence your phone, and remove anything else in the room that might create any distraction for you/your guests.
Added to my âpre-showâ checklistâremoving Milouâs collar.

Take Noise Cancelling Seriously
Audio quality is key. Quality audio can be the difference between someone sticking through your show or dropping off mid-episode. No matter how engaging your content might be, poor audio quality can be annoying and push listeners away. I researched quite a bit early on as to what would create high-quality audio for the show.Â
Be Present During Recording
Does this even be on the list? Yes. Do everything you can to be fully present while in conversation with guests. Interviews that the host or guest are just trying to âget throughâ make for boring episodes and missed opportunities for creative, responsive questions.
Set Expectations in Pre-Recording
This is a routine I like to go through with guests when we first hop on the call. I want to make sure any questions about the show, the recording process, publication, etc. are answered. Iâll give my quick brief about how long weâll record, what to expect with questions and the intro, and how long it will take roughly from recording to publication. I donât want guests to feel unprepared, maybe excessively nervous, or in the dark about when their show will go live.
Ask âRapid Fireâ Questions
Itâs nice to have some consistent quick-hit questions you ask guests. A common one hosts ask (that I do too), is if the guest has any books to recommend. I love this for a few reasons. I love knowing what leaders in my space are reading and, we get to set ourselves up to create some great complimentary content (i.e. âThe Most Recommended Books by 100 Social Entrepreneurs).
Record âMastersâ
If thereâs anything that youâll repeat with almost every show, record a few different re-usable versions (masters) of your intro, midroll, and/or outros. This will save you time so you donât have to re-record these things every time. To keep variety, record a few different variations and rotate them out each show.
Record Intros Immediately After Recording
Sometimes youâll feel spent after a good interview. However, refuse the urge to ârecord your intro tomorrow.â Any time that Iâve done this and put off recording an episode intro for another day, it takes me 2-3x as long because I need to re-remember what happened! Itâs best to ride the connection of the interview right into the intro recording.
Keep Intros Brief
Along those lines, donât overthink your intro! Keep it simple and concise to the overarching themes of the show, a brief intro and bio of your guest, and any pre-show CTAs you like to use to turn listeners into email list subscribers.Â
Record In-Person Interviews if You Can!
Ahhh, my in-person interviews have been really great experiences (duh). When the world allows for it once more, Iâll be seeing how many more of those I can fit in. It makes the recording a more âholistic experience,â whether that means touring a guestâs office, grabbing coffee or a drink after, or just enjoying the value of chatting face-to-face.
Tools & Tricks for a Successful Podcast
Take Audio Quality Seriously
Ever listen to a podcast with poor audio quality? Did you finish listening to it? Or, did you hang on and suffer through it? Yup, thatâs a bad experience to create for your listeners (and can have guests reflect poorly on the experience).
Yes, weâve mentioned this once beforeâŚ(see #46), but itâs well worth mentioning again.
Use a âPop Filterâ
A pop filter is a pretty essential recording tool to eliminate pops with âPâsâ or loud âshhhesâ when recording. Luckily, you can get them for pretty cheap!

Upgrade Your Webcam

The webcam on your laptop is most likely of pretty low quality. Donât kill yourself over this, but definitely upgrade the camera you are using to record yourself on interviews. For the majority of my interviews, Iâve used the C930e Logitech Webcam, and itâs been pretty reliable.
Iâve been wanting to upgrade to the Logitech Brio, but with the COVID-19 pandemic and the work-from-home population booming, itâs been out of stock. Figuring out how to use my iPhone 11 Plus has been on my to-do list for some time.
Use a Discreet On Screen Timer While Recording
I use my time tracking app, Timeular, to track how long weâve been recording. I like to track the time for the interview to keep episode lengths semi-consistent. Iâm happy to allow conversations to follow a natural flow, I just also like to be mindful of time, especially if a guest has a hard stop.Â
Stand Up for Your Show!
Thankfully, this has only happened in extremely rare instances, but for one of my recordings, it sounded like the guest was clicking around on their mouse the whole episode. It threw me off and left me feeling really frustrated with the experience as a host. In retrospect, I wish I spoke up! At a minimum, we wouldâve uncovered what was behind that clicking noise. It may have not been a mouse at all!Â
Take 10 Breaths & Move Before Logging in to the Call
It doesnât matter the interview, it doesnât matter the day. It doesnât matter that weâve done 100 episodes already! I always get a burst of anxiety when my interviews are about to hit. I want it to go well, I want the guest to enjoy themselves, I want it to be something people enjoy listening to. To help get me locked in, Iâll go through some deep breathing, squats, and push-ups. That helps turn a bit of the anxiety into focused energy.
Host Your Podcast with Libsyn
Now, Iâm not 100% attached to Libsyn, but I did have us briefly switch from Libsyn to Anchor.fm and opted to return.Â
At the time, Anchor.fm was free (not sure if it still is). But, the most important thing was that I could schedule out episodes in advance with Libsyn and, at the time, I couldnât with Anchor.fm.
Iâve been completely satisfied with Libsyn, no problems to ever report. I think the only thing Iâd be interested in is more advanced analytics.
Take âNotesâ on Your Show
So, weâve mentioned our show notes of course, but we also have our Episode Companions. These are really detailed, comprehensive notes that our team takes after every single guest episode.

This is an exceptional way for me/our team, to quickly review a show and remind ourselves of important takeaways and key concepts.
In addition to being valuable for listeners, this makes assembling âcompilationsâ much easier. Of course, this is an extra expense in the process, so…donât worry about it if your budget is tight. But, as a bonus, you can use that to encourage people to subscribe.
Transcribing Shows
We donât transcribe shows anymore, but itâs been useful in the past to review shows, grab important quotes, and publish our biggest compilation episode, â50 Social Entrepreneurs Changing the World Through Business.â We used Temi in the past, but they recently raised their rates. Other good options; Trint, Otter.ai, or Speechpad.
Use Interviews as Research
Of course, Iâm always learning a ton from our guest conversations. However, sometimes the subject matter can seem all over the place as our publication schedule is often determined by who scheduled a slot when. This is something thatâs a bit âaspirationalâ for us, but Iâve always wanted to provide more focus and direction to the subject matter experts we bring on the show, to overlap with what sorts of topics we are writing about for our blog, or programs we are creating.
Have Friends Critique Your Podcast
Feedback on your show is (almost) always valuable. Friends have encouraged me to add breaks with music, add/remove sign points, and shorten my intros among other improvements. Encourage friends (who have an opinion on podcasting that will have some weight) to critically review your show.
Who to ask? Friends who might be in your target listenership, who listen to podcasts themselves, and/or have some experience in storytelling.
Post-Production
Donât Edit Your Own Podcast
Even if you are the rare person who has had some background in audio engineering, I would recommend that you donât edit your episodes. The most important reason? It will greatly increase the likelihood of your show not passing the test of time!Â
The role of the host is big enough! Take yourself out of everything but that. However, editing your first show or two might be a valuable exercise so that you can clearly make recommendations and prescriptions to the future editor(s) you work with.
I edited my first two episodes. I didnât publish them. But, it was a good exercise just to see how much Iâd value someone with the expertise to take this off my hands and to be able to have more intelligent and productive back and forth with editors.
Break Episodes Up with Music (Or Sound Effects)
A friend of mine worked with me for a brief moment on improving the quality of our show. With experience in editing and producing podcasts himself, he made the quick suggestion to break up episodes with musical transitions. Itâs a small change thatâs made a big difference in breaking up sometimes longer sections of solo episodes.
Thanks, Henry!
(Consider) Using Signposts
For a while, we added signposts to our episodes. I do think these added value to the show, but this sometimes required a good deal of time to our whole production and editing process. Signposts can help to break up episodes, encourage listeners to hang on, and prep/plan different sections of a recording.Â
Create Show Notes
Our show notes pages have been valuable for us, but not in the way most people think (see more below). A valuable, detailed set of show notes is an important reference point for your episode. This makes for having an easy link to share (you + guests). A reason to compel guests to share (if itâs something theyâre proud to be featured on).
Get on Video
I do really wish we were doing this from Day One. Even if you arenât ready to âpublishâ your video, start recording it as soon as you have the equipment. Weâve only recently launched our YouTube channel with full video interviews.

Get on Video (Pt. 2)
Having video allows you and your guests to better pick up on conversational queues. Being able to see each other will improve the human-to-human connection and as a product of that, improve the conversation.

Publishing a Podcast
Publish Twice Weekly
You donât have to publish twice a week. Publishing once a week or twice a month consistently will do. But! Twice a week seems like something of a sweet spot for consistent growth of your show. Currently, we do one episode per week with a guest and one episode where Iâm solo covering a topic that weâre covering on our blog. Sure, consistency is the most important thing, here. But, if you and your systems are equipped to take production to two shows a week, do it.Â
Optimize Your Episode Titles
This is a relatively new improvement weâve made. Always something on the âto-doâ list that we finally got around to. Itâs important to take your titles seriously, as that can oftentimes be the difference between someone scrolling your feed to dive into an episode or not knowing about you.
Optimize Your Episode Descriptions

Weâve yet to analyze the results from these more intentionally built descriptions, but we recently cleaned and organized what our episode descriptions look like. We want to make them clear and scannable, and most importantly, make the CTAs and options to subscribe to our newsletter easy.
(Consider) Not Numbering Your Episodes
We havenât done this yet, but are strongly considering heading this way. Why? The last thing we want listeners to do when encountering âolderâ episodes of ours is to think itâs just outdated and not relevant.
If our episodes are truly of an evergreen style (which we believe they are) then we donât want potential listeners to assume they are outdated. Thanks, Noah Kagan for this tip.
Rethink Show Notes
When getting started podcasting, I read and heard countless recommendations for making sure you had a strong set of show notes for SEO purposes. However, Iâm now learning, this recommendation is coming from many podcasters who donât know Search Engine Optimization (SEO) that well.
Only a tiny percentage of our show notes get any long-term traffic from Google. Donât follow what other podcasters are doing with show notes (the majority of them anyways). InsteadâŚsee #76.
Build Blog Posts Instead of Show Notes
While maybe more work, whatâs most likely to collect long-term traffic is a set of show notes thatâs built around the topic of your episode with the guest, not the guest or the company themselves. Any of our episodes that weâve done that correspond with some of our high-traffic blogs, continue to get the most monthly downloads in the long term.Â
Promoting & Growing a Podcast
Be Patient with Growth
Growing a podcast audience has been hard! My primary skill is in growing blogs through SEO, and so building up our listenership has been new terrain for me.
Weâve seen a consistent trajectory of growth, every quarter driving a bigger listenership than the last, but, this hasnât come with ebbs and flows. Itâs required some patience as figuring out what drives downloads has taken some time.
Weâll consistently see 5-10% growth each month over the last. As long as itâs heading up and to the right, right?

Donât Stress the âNew & Noteworthyâ Placement
Does anyone really know how that works these days? Obviously being organically discovered on any platform (Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Etc.) is great, but in my experience thatâs hard to count on.
Weâve had more traction on building up audiences and traffic outside those apps (our blog, email list, etc.). But…if someone does know how increasing discoverability works on those platforms, let me know. đ
(Probably) Donât Pay for Ads
Weâve done little experimentation with much more than Facebook Ads, but even from those, we didnât see great results in video views on the platform turning into more listeners or subscribers. As well, our podcast provides a âreturnâ on our investment in it in such indirect ways, itâs hard to determine exactly how many listeners actually lead to some certain amount of sales. This might be an issue with our funnel, or as well the wide breadth of topics we cover, but…I like it that way.Â
Forget Sponsors (Mostly)
The traditional podcast advertising model doesnât pay out all too well for the host. Everything Iâve read has told me itâs on average $20 per 1,000 downloads per episode. With those numbers, weâd make on average $20-$30 bucks in 2019. Not good. Most shows donât accumulate the mass volume of downloads to make the advertising model something thatâs actually sustainable.
Automate Promotion
Where possible, think about where you can set up systems to put some of your podcast promotion on âautopilot.â For instance, we use a tool called MeetEdgar to promote our podcasts on our social media accounts perpetually. While itâs not going to âblow our show up,â itâs great to have passive promotion going that we donât have to touch.
Sponsor Yourself
If you really need to find more direct (or even indirect ways) to monetize your show, consider sponsoring yourself. Good advice Iâve heard from Charley Vahler over at Vahler Media. Use the end of your intro and a midroll to test out promoting your products/services.Â
Turn Listeners into Email List Subscribers
This is maybe the #1 thing is making the âmostâ out of the audience you build around your show. Think about how you can take your listeners and deepen your relationship with them. The best way to do that? Encourage them to become email list subscribers. For us, we have our âEpisode Companionsâ among other bonuses, to incentivize listeners to take another step with us in our relationship. Think about what that next step could be and insert those CTAs throughout your episode recordings.

Asks Guests to Link to Your Show Notes
This is a solid SEO strategy and a relatively easy âquick-winâ way to build up your websiteâs authority in the eyes of Google. A few weeks after each episode launches we follow up with the guest or their team to see if they might be willing to add our feature to a News, Press, or About page. Nearly 100% of the time, we get an enthusiastic âYes!â
This helps boost the overall authority of our site and the guestâs page, which ultimately drives more traffic to each! You help your SEO and get more âearsâ on the guest and their work. Win-win!
Make it Easy for Guests to Promote
Having guests promoting your show is a great way to build buzz for a new episode and potentially capture new subscribers. Do whatever you can to make it easy for your guests to promote the episode. We set up a calendar event to remind guests when the episode will go live. We have a Google Doc swipe file with some templates and copy for promotion, and of course, we have our direct link to the episode show notes for easy shareability. With all these things in mind, itâs also important that you see #86.
Donât PUSH on Guests to Promote
We all want guests to promote their episode. It helps grow our show! However, donât expect guests to promote. The best thing about welcoming guests on your show is all the great friends you can make as a product of it (see next tip). Donât mess with that.
Focus on creating a valuable connection and good experience for your guests and the majority of them will promote.
Promote *Old* Episodes
Although my interviewing skills have improved, I still think our early episodes are valuable for listeners (thanks to the guests, not the hosts). And so, while still a large area of opportunity for us, we do like to find reasons to keep promoting and re-promote old episodes.
Find Places to Republish Episodes
This is based on the principle of âmaking the mostâ out of the quality content you took the time to create. For us, it was a great early privilege to start republishing all our podcast episodes on the B Corporation communityâs blog, B the Change that has over 17,000 subscribers. This requires minimal work from us, but always gives us an additional spike in listenership.
Create Evergreen Episodes
If you want to set yourself up for the greatest chance of gathering a compounding listener base over time, you want to create a good majority of your episodes in such a way that if someone listens to it a year or two years after its publication, it still holds up. If you are publishing strictly timely/news-based content, then you can expect their relevance to fade and their download count over time to do the same.Â
Get on Other Podcasts with Audience/Topical Overlap
With the onboarding of a kick-ass Director of Partnerships & Communications, we just kicked off this strategy for podcast growth. Thinking through it, where might be the best place to access more podcast listeners? On other relevant podcasts…duh! However, crafting these pitches should be done with care and authenticity (see more below).Â
Make YOUR Pitches Genuine
If you are attempting to get booked on other podcasts, take the time to make your outreach genuine! Would you actually be a good guest for their show? How do you know? Have you listened to any episodes? We constantly get outreach saying âLOVE YOUR PODCAST! Can I be on it?â Thereâs no signs of personal touch or that theyâve even listened to an episode. Thumbs down.
Create âBest ofâ Shows
When we crossed year one in running our show, we thought weâd do something special. Thatâs when we created Parts 1 and 2 of the â50 Social Entrepreneurs Changing the World through Business.â This episode was a great success. Many of the 50 guests featured shared it, linked to it, and for a while, that double part âbest ofâ show helped set a single-month download record that took us five months to beat!
Repurpose Episodes
If you are recording podcasts on video (or, even if you arenât), there are a million ways you can reuse that content you already created. Get creative with it! Audio, text, & video can be reutilized for so many different platforms. Speaking ofâŚ#94…
Publish Quote Graphics on Instagram (and other platforms)
Weâve recorded 100 episodesâŚ(did I mention that?). How many hours of content (and good quotes) do you think that is? Quote graphics are a great way to snip up an episode and have an unlimited stream of content for your different social platforms.

Create Audiograms
Again, same thing here. Add some life to quotes and create audiograms to go on Instagram, LinkedIn, etc.

Publish Short Promo Videos
These are a âsemi-recentâ phenomenon for us, that my friend Sameer Bhuchar has absolutely crushed for us. With every new episode, we drip out a short promo a few days beforehand to build some buzz. This gets the guest some traction early, as well gets them involved in promotion early as these little videos show them we are serious about getting listeners for their show. đ
Get Setup with All Podcasting Platforms
Easy thing to do here, especially with a tool like Libsyn. Make sure your show is on every one of the podcast directories known to civilization because why not? Once we made the initial connection on Libsyn, every time we publish a show it distributes to every podcast you can think of (except on Soundcloud!).
Embed a Podcast Player on Site
Again, a no-brainer. Of course, youâll want to embed your podcast player on the show notes page on your website. However, we also have started embedding players on blog posts with relevant topics. This is a great way to get more exposure to the podcast and keep people on site for longer.

Build a Community for Your Guests &/or Listeners
This is something thatâs aspirational for us as well. As weâve mentioned, weâve cultivated so many exceptional relationships through the podcast. Iâve been wondering about some way to bring all these excellent people together…but not just a traditional Facebook Group or something like that.
We recently launched the Better World Business Growth Community, and we hope that will serve us there, but still think thereâs some value to be made here in more explicitly connecting all these people weâve engaged with through the show.Â
Use Your Podcast to Write a Book
Another aspiration. I havenât done it, but I think I could (as could any other podcast host who has covered their space in depth)!
Consider your interviews as opportunities to set the stage for a book you may publish later on. As our interviews are with some of the most accomplished entrepreneurs in our industry, thereâs no question that I could use those as research and case studies for a book on social entrepreneurship and innovation…maybe thatâs where I get working next. đ